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Con99 Welcome to the attention power convention 99, day 2.

Con99 The day opened with movements at 7:00am.

Con99 The movements workshop was led by Menlo, with demonstrations by Tabby.

Con99 each person contributed a movement to the circle.

Con99 after the movements the convention particpants had breakfast and are beginning to gather now. We will begin transcription shortly.

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Con99 Everyone is now heading to a different part of the convention site for a Zen Basics session.

Con99 hi folks, thi is tabby talking and

Con99 i will be transcribing what's being said

Con99 hi dick

Con99-1 hi

Con99 type something

Con99-1 hi from this station

Con99 howdy dick and jacob

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Con99-2 hello

Con99-2 hello

Con99 hello

Con99-1 the zen basics session is over?

Con99-2 howdy tabby and dick.

Con99-2 howdy tabby and dick.

Con99 comprende

Con99 howdy jacob

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Con99-1 comprende

Con99 is there anyone out there?

Con99 /Robbert is giving the group the

Con99 opportunity to carry the energy during the transition

Con99 from activity to activity...

Con99 from space to space

Con99 now david franco and claude needham are beginning the morning's talk

Con99 presentation of information from ej which has been coming

Con99 for the last month and a half

Con99 this morning will be a series of notes taken from the talk with ej this morning

Con99 there will be the oportnity for interactivity with these ideas

Con99 one of the themes for the convention, seen on the tshirts is invention is the child of necessity

Con99 think on that for the moment

Con99 it's cute, it's fun and it's profound

Con99 it started a few months ago

Con99 with the question of motivating

Con99 ej asked the question do we have the will to work

Con99 he answered he doesn't, but he does have the method

Con99 claude and david willpresent some of the methods

Con99 toprovide will to work.

Con99 many of us create alarm clocks

Con99 we try and put something up that will help us wake up

Con99 but we end up sleeping through our alarm clock; we hit the snooze button

Con99 over and over

Con99 the wish is there, the wish for it, the intention for work

Con99 and that's what we can build on

Con99 you thenhave a ledge to stand on

Con99 ej knows how to invoke that necessity...

Con99 the only way he know how is to dig a hole jump in and throw away the shovel.

Con99 put yourself in a postion where your

Con99 work is a natural reaction to that necessity

Con99 there are various ways to doing this

Con99 to have the work that is required to get out of the hole

Con99 there are holes you can throw yourself into that do not serve your aim

Con99 question from the audience

Con99 i am an actor. does that count as an intensive practice for the day?

Con99 who does more than two hours a day of practice?

Con99 who works at a job at least 8 hours a day?

Con99 so at least you're about 20 percent time of work and 80 percent your're investing in something else

Con99 that's just the reality of it

Con99 if your job is just a job you are investing all of that time just into a job

Con99 that's not going to cover it

Con99 ej is looking for 180 percent or more

Con99 the 20 percent is not goig to cover it

Con99 Istaking a leap of faith...it is your own effort

Con99 it is your own moment

Con99 faith has to be grown out of an intuition

Con99 of the work that yo have

Con99 it's finding pragmatic ways to leap forward

Con99 to find ways to create a necessity such that it will pull us into a work life

Con99 that is what we are discussing now here

Con99 the phrase a work life in the sixteen hundreds in europe that would refer to a monastic life

Con99 this is not 1600 in europe

Con99 you have a notion what a work life is

Con99 what is that?

Con99 i doubt that something is isolation

Con99 but as we arelearning to work

Con99 we refer to it as the life after we learn to work

Con99 not a little four by four cell

Con99 your training should involve something that is not isolation, but where you are in contact with others

Con99 just scan the pretext that you can be in contact with somebody

Con99 a doctor, a lawyer, service person, plumber, salesperson

Con99 guy directing traffic

Con99 some of these modes are very restrictive, not much contact

Con99 there are other modes that give you more leway because that is a work life

Con99 a work life is not in a cell

Con99 it is in contact

Con99 so we're looking at transmittingsomething that ej layed out

Con99 which is not inisolation but is in the context of the twentieth century north american culture

Con99 something that you can do that is not in the leftover two hours after agrueling 80 percent job

Con99 obviously that is not where we stand rght now

Con99 it begins to sound lke we have to make a leap

Con99 one of the ways that in this particular environment this would be a different talk

Con99 this is what's happening today...

Con99 a hole that you can throw yourself into is economical

Con99 ej said that everyone of us here is capable of supporting 100 people

Con99 forget all of the excuses why

Con99 you can feel it, if you were put to the wall, you can do that

Con99 that's a way to understnad that being in a hole

Con99 applications of practical psychology

Con99 the example of a used car salesperson

Con99 they can applypsychology at that moment on their feet

Con99 where you are in contact you actually then know there is someone out there that you can care for that you can do that

Con99 when youre in isolation you can't know

Con99 in a sense it invokes the heart

Con99 which comes out ofnecessity

Con99 that's an aelement you can work with at the same time

Con99 where the lea of faith can stream from

Con99 something that can become the basis of work

Con99 the act of compassion can come in small ways in small units

Con99 of a small steps where your work expresses absolute compassion

Con99 those you find on your own and those you pass up as well

Con99 charles runs a store and he has t rnning at all times

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Con99 someone will ask what the price is fora book and charles will say the price of that book is 15 dollars and the woman will say i don't have 15 dollars

Con99 so he can spend the extra time and work something out

Con99 people come for different reasons to the store

Con99 some will come because of the magnetic attraction of thework that you have done

Con99 it's for where most of them have their attention and what they're up to

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Con99 key phrase: a spiritual b not interested in money is a spiritual being on the street.

Con99 key phrase: get the courage to take the work plunge.

Con99 key phrase: leap of faith: we are providing tols for you to jump off your own cliff.

Con99 it's a small act of kindness that can have profound...

Con99 effect

Con99 maybe talking to a shopkeeper didn't mount to much, but thirty years later...

Con99 that moment is pivotal in some way

Con99 that wasn't just a regular shop keeper

Con99 you are that shopkeeper

Con99 that particular shopkeeper made that environment possible for that person to come in

Con99 the big difficulty is the day to day grind to keep thatshop open

Con99 ej and others run a full blown store on ebay

Con99 some of the material are very pedestrian

Con99 some of them are work tools

Con99 now he has a list of about 50 people who conta ct him who are not part of this work, but they

Con99 contact him through his store

Con99 because he took the time to write out a complete email to them

Con99 and because he made them feel welcome

Con99 refers to team fortress/quake

Con99 there's a couple hundred kids rnning around out there

Con99 who play with gorebag

Con99 he's a legend to them as aplayer

Con99 such an incredible dude

Con99 just from talking and helping them out

Con99 taking the time to help them learn how to do the games

Con99 the relationshp are established in the context of the game

Con99 it's another context where you're on the street

Con99 as long as you're in te walls of the organiation

Con99 you're like a god

Con99 you're like total masters of everything

Con99 as soon as you step out on the street like a regular schmuck just like everybody else

Con99 except yo're not handling it as well

Con99 key phrase: you could be in the position to take care of 100 people just by doing what you do

Con99 key phrase: there is no measure of success in spiritual work, it is the little acts of kindness that weigh against the feather in the end

Con99 it's amazing what can happen with a few little words of kindness in the contrext of these games

Con99 one of the things to consider about yoursel you also carry magnetic center

Con99 many of those gifts you carry already

Con99 you know that at the moment of completing that sale that is a moment of prsence

Con99 you are in contact with that individual

Con99 you put in the work you pjt in the time of it

Con99 open yourself up to the universe

Con99 key phrase: open yourself up to the universe. If you are a seeker after truth you willlectually seeking truth.

Con99 key phrase: seeker at the triuth means you are there at the truth.

Con99 there's a few other circumstances where others can interface...a bar, which is a very limited conrtext

Con99 some kind of econimcal relationship

Con99 talking to somebody about an item on ebay, a stranger, as an example

Con99 i know the essential qualities about them

Con99 hi, what's your sign doesn't make it

Con99 the safest arena to deal with peole has to do with financial ..

Con99 i am relaxed in a way

Con99 now we're just there in the moment in the present and we don't all have to have the same barriers

Con99 that's where it starts

Con99 the person in that checkout counter isn'tthere in the present

Con99 they're not with me

Con99 so nothing can happen

Con99 if you go into this transa ction with apreconceived notion,

Con99 of what succes can be, how can you know

Con99 how can you know what succes will mean?

Con99 whatever we're taling about can't require that you know what a preconceived success will be

Con99 this is the church of what's happening now

Con99 now, it's the church of what's happening...now

Con99 the idea of necessity and placing yourself in aposition of necessity to bring forth your work

Con99 one of the phrases that ej said: he's looking for folks who are highly motivatedwho can do anything to bring about work transformation

Con99 people came to the con for various reasons

Con99 some quit their jobs to come here

Con99 some people took time out from appointments.

Con99 it is that reason that you came here that can be built on to attempt a way to put yourself in a position of necessity

Con99 do you have any questions or comments?

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Con99 key phrase...

Con99 looking for folks who are highly motivated to do

Con99 anything to bring about work transformation

Con99 it's a very clear statement of what's being asked for

Con99 it's not being asked for, it is the situation

Con99 it's just being acknowledged

Con99 it's not like you go into a classroom and there's a teacher

Con99 and you say

Con99 is this enough, is that enough/

Con99 does this give you an a or d or whatever?

Con99 ej is more of abusiness where

Con99 he's standing on one side of a cliff

Con99 and you walk up to him

Con99 and say does it work if I only jump 8 feet

Con99 and the cliff is 10 feet

Con99 key phrase again:

Con99 looking for folks who are highly motivated to do anything to bring about work transformation

Con99 if you don't find a hole, meaning dig one

Con99 so you dig the hole, youjump in and you throw the shovel away

Con99 key phrse: the only "real"

Con99 hole for this society is an economic hole, nothing else matters. The meditation is active not passive.

Con99 YOU are a mother Theresa or you are not. A half hour meditation a day isnot it. Not working for the work. Yo need to be full time up to your elbows in it but keeping yourself clean. In the wor

Con99 in the world, not of it.

Con99 question -- he has a sense of his side of the cliff, hs some sense of the chasm,

Con99 but he doesn't have a sense of the other side

Con99 key phrase: no one has the wil to work, not ej not anyone. The only way he knows how is to dig a hole jump in and throw away the shovel.

Con99 to get out of the proper hole, you must transform

Con99 you can't dig the hole, then set the shovel down, go out and buy yo8self a ladder, throw the shovel away, and jump in the hole

Con99 that's a safe hole, it doesn't cont.

Con99 it's not a true hole

Con99 not true necessity

Con99 the more you know the less you have to carry

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Con99 there's a multitude of traps along the way

Con99 pride is definitely one of them

[fabio] thnx

Con99 maybe voluntary is working at a bingo game, so you have to learn to relate without being a phony

Con99 so i put myself in that situation not because i wanted to learn that, but maybe i didn't want to see david do that alone

Con99 your work buddies are going to talke to you about pride

Con99 it's a pitfall on every path

Con99 key phrase: this is the institute for the development of the harmonious human being. Must be harmonious to work,

Con99 not necessarily in blaance but harmonious

Con99 key phrse: we have the tools to share with you. You need get the courage to make the commitment.

Con99 comment from the floor

Con99 he pit has to be something that you don't want to wallow in

Con99 at some point you have to stop wallwong

Con99 and work to get yourself out of the pit

Con99 Now we will be moving to a different section of the convention

Con99 This will be with Jimmi Accard and David Christie

Con99 is everyboyd exhuasted yet?

Con99 Let's carry on.

Con99 let's stretch for a second.

Con99 people stand up and strtch for a bit

Con99 do whatever you need to do.

[fabio] thnx typewriter - is that tabby?

Con99 this is pe now,

Con99 that was tabby before

Con99 we are getting ready to start again

[fabio] hi pe

Con99 please return to your seats now, comeon back, come on you little puppies

Con99 we need hands for lunch count

Con99 just about everybody

[eric] hi pe i'm on the website, keep it rolling.

Con99 looks like everybody

Con99 thanks eric

Con99 ron, jimi, and ron tristal on the stage

Con99 ok,

Con99 let's have a moment of silence

Con99 and try to gather our attention

Con99 for those who are doing that

Con99 it's okay to allow all the others noices to come in

Con99 just don't do it yourself

Con99 let's try to gather our attention

Con99 (still silent)

Con99 that's getting pretty freaky

Con99 ok,

Con99 hat's good enough

Con99 let's carry on

Con99 whatever we were doing,

Con99 talking about necessity, and um

Con99 i brought ron up here

Con99 i think most of you know ron tristal

Con99 (people waving at him and saying hi ron)

Con99 claude and david brought up some good points

Con99 i'm from new york

Con99 that's the show me state right

Con99 don't laugh i'll kill

Con99 one of them was about taking a risk

Con99 one of them was about not knowing about whayt's on the other side

Con99 i would like people to share whatever they want to

Con99 one of the things i was reminded about

Con99 you have to dig your own hole

Con99 there are lots of wholes lying around

Con99 but you have to make a whole for yourself

Con99 the whole that makes the change for you is the way you make yorself

Con99 if you face it,

Con99 everyone is differen

Con99 no one can tell youou are working or not

Con99 (story that went too fast - ask jimmi later)

Con99 you do have to dig your own hoel

Con99 and getrid of that ladder,

Con99 and the transformation that produces by you jumping into it

Con99 it won't happen any other way

Con99 you can't do it by soem other method

Con99 all the prepartion in the world for find inf the right hole

Con99 isn't doing it

Con99 wha'ts the worse that can happen

Con99 you may never get out

Con99 (story)

Con99 man in the graveyard,

Con99 keeps falling down

Con99 can't see anything,it's really dark

Con99 all the sudden he hears a voice

Con99 forget it i've trired

Con99 and all of the sudden he's out

Con99 he hears a voice in the middle of the night - it's ghosts or whatever,

Con99 he's out of there.

Con99 you don't really have to know anything, you dhouldn't be dishonest, you should care

Con99 if you don't what you're talking about,

Con99 at the end of the lifetime, you are going to loose all the knowldege that you accumulate at this liftime

Con99 you will loose all the experience

Con99 and what is left is you

Con99 your essential self

Con99 your attention and presence

Con99 the work that we're talking about

Con99 is the work that will provide this transformation

Con99 the hole is so it is provided by reflex

Con99 because this is not something that can be provided by work alone

Con99 the machine will not provide it

Con99 it will foolu you when you are working, when you are not

Con99 we used to have a question,

Con99 in a study group context:

Con99 the question is what is this work,

Con99 there is the work ideas

Con99 and in a way you could say the work is what you do with the ideas

Con99 i need to get a job that forces me on the stage

Con99 because the humiliation on the stage

Con99 forces me to learn

Con99 to find a situation that getms in

Con99 where not making it are worce

Con99 there is a surrender required to reseice any transmission

Con99 there is nobody here that wants you to do anything

Con99 you won'tget the transmission unless you surrender

Con99 and you may surrender to the wrong thing

Con99 but hey you can leanr from that

Con99 you are responsible for your own trip

Con99 so at the end of your lifetime, you are going by yourself

Con99 the only thing you are going to take with you

Con99 is attention and presence

Con99 questions from the group

Con99 i think you spend a lot of time so we know wha't on the other side

Con99 so anything that is new or expected,

Con99 so the idea of going to seomthing myseterious

Con99 that we don't know about is bad

Con99 or at least becomeing dissatisfied with the lifetime that you are living

Con99 you know that you are supposed to do something

Con99 or you have that bit of conscience

Con99 something is bad going to happend if i don't do that thing

Con99 i don't remember what it is

Con99 so how can i get out of this mood

Con99 and how can i make this change

Con99 ej gave a talk about in search of the orindary

Con99 a take off on the ouspensky

Con99 basically - do something

Con99 don't wait until you know

Con99 you can't know

Con99 if that is a requriment before you jump

Con99 then you will never jump

Con99 you will just stay where you are.

Con99 question: you realize that all you have is your presence and your attention

Con99 that is the part

Con99 i understand that is what is supposed to be used with all of the life

Con99 that is the part that is scaring,

Con99 because we don't know, we work toegether

Con99 we work interdependent

Con99 it seems to demand being alone

Con99 i think that the attention and presence part mean to be alone

Con99 is that true?

Con99 i think that is a little off the track

Con99 this is one of the big fears

Con99 we are alonge

Con99 we are alone

Con99 we are talking about the tools of increasing the necessity to do that

Con99 to practise the attention

Con99 presence is your tool

Con99 no one can make your presence for you.

Con99 if you want to dig into that line

Con99 what is scarey about that?

Con99 for me, i have attachments that are not with presence and attention

Con99 those attachments are fase

Con99 false

Con99 when i drop those, i have to discrn what are the true and real relationships with others

Con99 so what is is that we are all doing together?

Con99 everybody came here to do the same thing together.

Con99 why do we need to learn it?

Con99 i don't think we would even choose it if we didn't have to do it

Con99 people who have run study circle

Con99 to me the ideas are if you meditate by yourself

Con99 you can go off and meditate in the desert along

Con99 but if you can't maintain that in the street fair

Con99 and in an argument with your spouse and so on

Con99 we can sit around and read ej's books

Con99 and then get into a good space

Con99 then we say let's do a project together

Con99 we got frustrated and angry

Con99 with each other in the street fair booth

Con99 how long can you maintain it in the world

Con99 it's the feedback

Con99 what is it for?

Con99 it's lke having to but no job.

Con99 you can do a lot of things without attention and rpesence

Con99 but why?

Con99 one of the things that one of the reasons that the machine is so hard to disarm

Con99 so that presence and attention can have a place for a while

Con99 is that it has the fear that you will make it do that forever

Con99 there are 2 kinds of attention

Con99 we are talking about provoking the being attention

Con99 the being attention is what we are talking about

Con99 whichever one is stronger

Con99 my habits will carry me through

Con99 necissity is the thing that will force that

Con99 nature will just let you go through life

Con99 unless you are disatisfied

Con99 or unless you are scared

Con99 so weused to have this question

Con99 how do i put myself in the position

Con99 where my personal transformation is a necessiaty for the work

Con99 the reality of the wquestion for me

Con99 came from the knwoing that is a question to ask

Con99 it came from fear

Con99 at 25 i had the experience where i realized i was going to die

Con99 that original motivator

Con99 was fear of death

Con99 what you have there is fuel

Con99 you have something that you can work with

Con99 why would you take that big risk

Con99 if you don't have to?

Con99 things will continue going on the way they are

Con99 if you don't take that risk

Con99 you have the reason to take a step

Con99 now, do you have enough experience to know

Con99 what will happen if you don't do something.

Con99 what the something is, you'll have to find

Con99 in the play,

Con99 either that or another trip to the matterhorn

Con99 psychedelics is a sudden blast of reality

Con99 not full reality, because it's a drug

Con99 you are seeing the wakingstate

Con99 but it is filtered

Con99 if you know that is where you are going

Con99 why not prepare now

Con99 if it's raining you don't want togo out and fixt the roof

Con99 and when it stops raining you don't want to go out there

Con99 it is the opportunity to change yourself

Con99 so the next time it isn't the same

Con99 if you want to do something about that

Con99 since you know that you have to go

Con99 after you accept that you are,

Con99 you can do something after you have accepted that.t

Con99 share from the floor

Con99 didn't understand what the people where saying

Con99 didn't have the understanding

Con99 as soon as learning english

Con99 i understand what the words mean

Con99 i feel more responsibility

Con99 something that happened to me as a kid

Con99 i heard a song very strongly

Con99 i wrote the song in spanish

Con99 my surprise was

Con99 after i hear the song in english

Con99 the words fit exactly

Con99 we are talking about the same thing

Con99 we don't know what it is

Con99 it doesn't have to be in the beginning understanding

Con99 the context will change

Con99 but the content won't change

Con99 even if it isn't a conscious aim

Con99 if i don't do this,

Con99 there is a consequence

Con99 until that shock happens in your life

Con99 i'm getting myself stuck into devloved into something worse

Con99 this morning in the movemnets workshop

Con99 i thought it was really cool how menlo did it

Con99 we are each making the offer

Con99 to the circle

Con99 so that the embassament of not doing it

Con99 was worse than not doing it

Con99 once you have agreed to it

Con99 the personal pain of not doing it

Con99 is worse than not doing it

Con99 part of group work is to have the opporutnity

Con99 to build those muschles

Con99 of obligation and responsibility

Con99 obligation is te key word there

Con99 picking up on what dilcia said

Con99 if the idea works

Con99 you can check it out in ordinary life

Con99 as above so below

Con99 you have to learn english

Con99 you are forced to leanr it because you need it

Con99 many personal experiences of forcing ourselves into necessity

Con99 if your aim is to become a doctor

Con99 you force yourself thorugh medical schol

Con99 in the case of learning a language

Con99 you are forced to put your attention out

Con99 and learn what you know

Con99 you choose to jump into

Con99 because you make an educated guess

Con99 that it will create the right necessity

Con99 jimmi and i have a small one now

Con99 we have an online workshop every week

Con99 Luz: what's going to happen is thta we are going to jump into the same crazy hole

Con99 you create a hole we are others can alos jump in

Con99 it's al la trap

Con99 you'll just have to be there

Con99 talking about a regular jog

Con99 what about who you really are?

Con99 that should be more importatn

Con99 if you know that you can do an 8 hour job

Con99 and you do it because your survival depends on it

Con99 and if you know for sure that your being needs work

Con99 for survival, then you would make your real life on your being

Con99 you would make that

Con99 you want to trap yourself into doing that

Con99 make that more important than going to a job

Con99 you can't leave holes,

Con99 you have to not leave you an out

Con99 you take that risk

Con99 you risk your whole life

Con99 you bet on whatever you put your attention on

Con99 question: how can i make that current hole one which is one of necesity

Con99 looking at your current daily work and becoming passionate for others

Con99 how can this group work in that way, or look at your current hole you are in

Con99 is it producing transformation

Con99 only you can answer that

Con99 se - read a poem

Con99 this poem was written by an american lady

Con99 don't know her name

Con99 autobiography in 5 short chapters

Con99 i walk down the street

Con99 there is a deep hole

Con99 i fall in

Con99 (typing whole poem in)

Con99 i walk down the street

Con99 there is a deep hole in the sidewalk

Con99 i fall in

Con99 i am lost

Con99 i am hopeless

Con99 it isn't my fault

Con99 it takes forever to find a way out

Con99 i wlk down the same street

Con99 there is a deep hole in the sidewalk

Con99 i pretend i don't see it

Con99 i fall in again

Con99 i can't believe im in the same place

Con99 but, it isn't my fault

Con99 it still takes a long time to get out

Con99 i walk down the same street

Con99 there is a deep hole in the sidewalk

Con99 i see it is there

Con99 there is a deep hole in the sidewalk

Con99 i see it is there

Con99 i still fall in - it's a havit

Con99 my eyes are open

Con99 i know where i am

Con99 it is my fault

Con99 i get out immediately

Con99 i walk down the same street

Con99 theres a deep hole in the sidewalk

Con99 i walk around it

Con99 i walk down another street

Con99 end of poem

Con99 in answer to the question my work necessity for personal transformation

Con99 take it on as a project

Con99 give a specific ex. Mick - personal aversion to physical ex.

Con99 said up internet group to do set of ex. 2 times a day with group

Con99 make ex. a personal part of my day

Con99 took on leading a study group in new york

Con99 so every week we had to meet at my place for a meeting

Con99 i had to be there, had to provide space for that

Con99 time to time publish books, copublish

Con99 human biological machine

Con99 maybe i don't do it a consistent amount of times,

Con99 take on some of the art work,

Con99 selling it , buying it

Con99 some little bit of information is getting out

Con99 in some sense nothing mystical about it

Con99 plenty of things to do,

Con99 in doing reading for someone you are doing the reading for yourself

Con99 all that is the way of using the time we have here

Con99 to be involved with the transformational work

Con99 mr. gold has often spoken

Con99 we hope to find a way to maximize

Con99 to get the most out of the time w have here

Con99 della speaking

Con99 there are many ways, one key ingredient

Con99 as in baking a turkey for thanksgiving dinner

Con99 if you put in the oven at 35 degrees

Con99 it will never cook

Con99 the temperature has to be at a certain point

Con99 to have the effect we want

Con99 so we are on the clock, the temperature

Con99 must be turned up to the point that works.

Con99 (della)-we have a movie list in conv packet

Con99 l. said add a movie she liked

Con99 EJ said why do you like that movie?

Con99 she said because it makes me feel good etc.

Con99 EJ said no no no, that is NOT what

Con99 we are looking for,but a movie

Con99 that helps you to work, do this work

Con99 not feel good, be entertained, be warm and happy...

Con99 Jimmi--Not to say we mean be awake all the time

Con99 but there is need for something different

Con99 for finding the work, necessity for this work

Con99 in your life.

Con99 You can't know what it is before

Con99 but you'll jump in anyway...

Con99 you might die... but you'll die anyway.

Con99 "If it's not necessary, you won't do it."

Con99 Who disagrees?

Con99 Lloyd C.--Maybe I have an affinity

Con99 for a being that is unseen

Con99 and I want to serve it

Con99 sacrifice and serve...

Con99 not from necessity and fear--just another possibility.

Con99 Jimmi--I am assuming that people feel a need

Con99 for transformation, and the trans. will not be

Con99 produced without the necessity for that transformation.

[eric] pat, can i send this url to my mailing list for people to tune in if they wish or is this semi-private?

Con99 Like the performer: no amount of preparation

Con99 will prepare me for being on stage.

Con99 Have to do the performance.

Con99 Lloyd--speaking of further possibilities.

Con99 If i'm not going to make it

Con99 i will come aroound again, many lifetimes

Con99 may be required....

Con99 Jimmi--I came to the workshop

Con99 yesterday, used the bathroom 2 times

Con99 the door slammed....

Con99 today, i used the bathroom and the door didn't slam

Con99 so that is part of my attention work today, just for me....

Con99 Closing for lunch break, questions

Con99 to be handled during the break....

Con99 Addition for AM session:

Con99 While poem was being typed in,

Con99 ron tristal from NY spoke on stage

Con99 saying that he had a friend in NY

Con99 who gave a cooking class and dragged Ron along

Con99 she eventually told him that she hated

Con99 to give this cooking class

Con99 so he asked, why do you give it?

Con99 SHe said, it is important and she needs to give it.

Con99 but the only way she can get herself

Con99 togive this class is to know that

Con99 8 people are telling her they will be there.

Con99 So Ron feels that she is applying a work idea

Con99 in her life.

Con99 ron also told one story

Con99 about a study circle activity in ny

Con99 when they went out on the street

Con99 with a movie camera and asked people

Con99 serious life questions like:

Con99 Why are you here?

Con99 Some people walked away

Con99 some said, I'm shopping. or some such

Con99 but some people confronted the question

Con99 seriously and talked about dreams

Con99 and about their lives

Con99 and the group made a one hour film

Con99 from this material.

Con99 The online upload from Convention 99

Con99 will be closed now for approximately one hour

Con99 and we will resume again after lunch.

Godd End of Chat.

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